Building a company is hard. Really hard.

In this episode of Conversations on Teams, Jonas shares what it truly takes to build great teams - and why it’s not about being nice, following advice, or playing it safe.

He speaks openly about making tough calls, embracing conflict, and creating an environment where honesty fuels progress. From learning when to fight (and how to heal after) to understanding that not every hire will work out, Jonas reveals the raw truth behind building a team that lasts.

He also looks ahead - to a future where small, AI-powered teams achieve 100x more through trust, curiosity, and courage.

This isn’t a leadership playbook. It’s a glimpse into what it takes to build something exceptional - with people who care deeply enough to disagree, improve, and keep building together.

Watch the full conversation to see what real teamwork looks like.